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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:29 PM
i hate how every other guide is incredibly bloated
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 2/24/2023 11:29 PM
why all the caps?
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BECAUSE ITS IMPORTANT
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Ludvig
AND IS THAT GAY?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
Yes, i love nifty
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
I'm a bit of a genius, I know.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
why is it so important?
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IM YELLING RN
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
Follow for more Tulpamancy tips
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BECAUES I RLY WANT TULPA
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
don't worry about ludvig skyler, he's our new server monkey pet
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
how to follow on discord
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
Friend Request 😊
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
don't worry about ludvig skyler, he's our new server monkey pet
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:30 PM
dont be mean to the poor thing...
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
don't worry about ludvig skyler, he's our new server monkey pet
THATS RACIST
11:30 PM
WTF
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
sorry . a puppy pet?
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
You can be the server dog then
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Atlas || M&M
Friend Request 😊
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
How friend request webhook?
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
That's more accurate
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IS THERE ANY ADMIN HERE?
11:31 PM
PLEASE BAN THE RACIST TROLL
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
retired
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
I was just thinking about isn’t making a tulpa supposed to be something thought about seriously?
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Ludvig
PLEASE BAN THE RACIST TROLL
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
Hey, this is getting out of hand, chill
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@Chat Mod @Moderator
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
do @ admin as well
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:31 PM
How friend request webhook?
@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) - jump You do not. I simply emerge when I am needed most, only to vanish during times of peace and harmony.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
do @ admin as well
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:32 PM
KITKAT DONT ENCOURAGE THEM
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:32 PM
LOL
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:32 PM
L
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:32 PM
such a nice puppy
11:32 PM
he follows commands!
11:32 PM
and they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:33 PM
They dont seem very old to me
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:33 PM
I love my life of being some system's colorful vocaloid introject, I am the tulpa mastermind and none of you can comprehend my mind powers.
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Banned ludvig for being a troll
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:33 PM
Hahahahha
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:33 PM
Rip, goodbye, fallen soldier.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:33 PM
I love my life of being some system's colorful vocaloid introject, I am the tulpa mastermind and none of you can comprehend my mind powers.
@Atlas || M&M (@leviine) - jump oh are you a vocaloid introject?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:33 PM
That caught me off guard!
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:34 PM
oh are you a vocaloid introject?
@KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ (@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk) - jump Yes, I just use the name Atlas here in case that's a bullyable offense
11:34 PM
😔
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:34 PM
Everything is bullyable if you think enough about it ❤️
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/24/2023 11:34 PM
Im already bullyable by default, I shouldn't make it worse for myself.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/24/2023 11:34 PM
#lounge ?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/24/2023 11:35 PM
yes
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Sellato
A question for lucid dreamers, or if anyone knows i need help. I entered into a lucid dream, and the first thing I did was looking for Sheen (tulpa) and ask the people there about him. Everyone in the dream doesn't know who he is, and I started describing him to them, but no one knows, and I noticed that all those I ask are strangers i don't know any of them. And when I try to imagine him behind a door or in a certain room, I still can't find him. Any advices, please?(sorry for my English)
Tewi: "Expecting to see them around the corner" is a huge one everyone recommends, for sure. But this article recommends holding off on actually checking around the corner for a few moments, just staying and sort of charging that expectation, really believing they're right there waiting for you for a bit. There are also other really good techniques listed - #2 sounds potentially extremely potent and is something we haven't thought of in nearly 10 years. https://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/how-to-create-dream-characters.html Since you probably already understand that belief and expectation are what cause things to happen in lucid dreams, not just willpower, I just recommend googling "How to make characters appear in lucid dreams" - there are quite a few different results. (Reddit results are always a good place to get random people's unique answers) (edited)
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Reisen
Tewi: "Expecting to see them around the corner" is a huge one everyone recommends, for sure. But this article recommends holding off on actually checking around the corner for a few moments, just staying and sort of charging that expectation, really believing they're right there waiting for you for a bit. There are also other really good techniques listed - #2 sounds potentially extremely potent and is something we haven't thought of in nearly 10 years. https://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/how-to-create-dream-characters.html Since you probably already understand that belief and expectation are what cause things to happen in lucid dreams, not just willpower, I just recommend googling "How to make characters appear in lucid dreams" - there are quite a few different results. (Reddit results are always a good place to get random people's unique answers) (edited)
You're right. I have never tried expecting them around the corner. Thank you so much. I will update you guys if I get any good results 👍🏼🥺
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Tewi: Well, that's the same thing as this:
And when I try to imagine him behind a door or in a certain room, I still can't find him.
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4:09 AM
Where you do it exactly doesn't matter so much (aside from what works best for you), I just wanted to give advice on how to possibly make that technique work more consistently.
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4:09 AM
Rushing around in lucid dreams is almost always a bad idea for achieving what you want.
4:11 AM
But yeah, for that one, try just staying there and really convincing yourself/feeling your tulpa is around the corner/behind the door/etc. for a moment. Don't be hasty about it, since it'll only happen when you've truly convinced your mind it will be the case.
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I still like that article's method #2 though, of talking out loud "to your dream" and asking it to make things happen, as if your dream is sentient and listening to you. Of course that works the same was as any other dream control technique, by believing it'll actually do something. The trick to dream control is more often than not just finding a technique that really convinces you it'll make something happen.
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(A common example is people being unable to believe they can fly... Unless they hold out their arms like Superman, or pick up a rock and say "This is a magic pebble that allows me to fly", or believing that gravity has just been reduced.. or any other creative solutions to trick yourself into letting things happen.)
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Reisen
Rushing around in lucid dreams is almost always a bad idea for achieving what you want.
Your advices is so helpful. I really don't know how to thank you. You're right. I'm rushing around so fast in my dreams because I'm afraid that I will wake up or get back into my dream, that is why when I expect him behind a room or a door I go in there quickly with out giving my self time to actually belive that he is behind that door. (I take time replying so I can make sure that my English is right, so I'm sorry if it's not)
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Tewi: Don't worry, even after years in the lucid dreaming community (Dreamviews), we still fell victim to that ourselves until we recognized it was a problem (because we kept losing lucidity from getting distracted, not keeping our focus) (edited)
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Becoming lucid is exciting, but in order to make anything of it you have to remain focused. And as a beginner, that usually means taking things slow.
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is it weird if i have a intentionally created headmate who acts like a alter
2:04 AM
he used to be a defense mechanism i created when i was 15
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so whenever i got stressed, felt in danger or smth
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my personality would change to his, it was a alter ego (but i didnt think he was sentient)
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but...i kept doing this so much he became sentient
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we and him do have invonluntary "switching" but we never had any amnesia, and when we switch i become a "version" of me (probably median stuff)
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before 15 i wasnt plural
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i had never any memory issues or personality changes, never had internal voices besides mine before him, etc (edited)
2:07 AM
so i dont think it would fit in osdd or did
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Tewi: You seem to have your dynamic all figured out already. (edited)
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:07 AM
FTR, "alter" is just a label, it's not definitively different than being a tulpa.
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Reisen
Tewi: You seem to have your dynamic all figured out already. (edited)
is it a bad thing?
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No one's going to understand your experiences better than yourself. So you're the most qualified to label your experiences, not us.
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:08 AM
As for whether it's "weird" or not, no. Lots of people develop systems that way, we have, for one, and we're......comparatively fine all things considered.
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You also don't need to fit into DID/OSDD criterea for your system to be formed from/influenced by trauma and stress.
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DID/OSDD is simply a more disordered form of plurality commonly created through traumatic experiences.
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he is traumagenic in a way
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but he only started to exist at 15
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and before that i was completely normal
2:10 AM
and i kinda accidentaly created the guy
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:11 AM
So? Age has nothing to do with whether he or you are trauma-formed.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 2:11 AM
”acts as an alter” doesn’t mean anything
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:11 AM
Trauma can happen at any age.
2:11 AM
if you're talking about structural dissociation, then I can understand why you'd think that, but like I mentioned, DID and OSDD are not the only types of traumagenic system.
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i dont believe in structural dissociation of course but most people believe in it i guess
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Atlas || M&M
if you're talking about structural dissociation, then I can understand why you'd think that, but like I mentioned, DID and OSDD are not the only types of traumagenic system.
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:13 AM
i dont believe in structural dissociation of course but most people believe in it i guess
@Adeus. - jump Most people's beliefs don't need to dictate how you believe, yes.
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People don't believe in tulpas, but that doesn't stop them from existing.
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its true so should i call the guy a tulpa or smth else
2:14 AM
i know its just labels
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 2:14 AM
to be honest what you are describing sounds like some teenager emotion management issue that you tetrospectively started considering plurality
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:14 AM
It's up to you, IMO, it genuinely doesn't matter unless you're trying to find closure.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 2:14 AM
rectrospectively*
2:14 AM
which started giving you the plura experience
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
to be honest what you are describing sounds like some teenager emotion management issue that you tetrospectively started considering plurality
it was kinda like
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i "roleplayed" as him (a bad version of me) so i could...survive certain things
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 2:15 AM
We chose to not use the label of "tulpa" or "tulpamancy" for our plural experience because we feel like acknowledging the stress and trauma that helped play a part in our system forming helps us feel validated.
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and shut off my emotions
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 2:15 AM
yeah most people have masks
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i didnt want to suffer certain things again
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at some point
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the guy just started answering back
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